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Doctor Doom vs. the Thing (Fox films, 2005–07)

Ben Grimm, the Fox films (2005–07) version of The Thing. In this site's ratings, classic Doctor Doom wins 70% of their one-on-one fights, so Doom is the favorite.

Classic Doom70%Favored
VS
The Thing (Fox films, 2005–07)30%Underdog

The verdict: Doom has the edge

Fight rules: both fighters at their peak, no preparation, no allies, only their own powers and personal gear. A win is a knockout, a restraint they can't escape, or a forced surrender. The percentages are fan estimates, not official information.

Doom's edge

Sorcery and armor beyond anything his own film's Doom had.

The Thing's edge

Rock strength and a heart that chose the rock again to save his friends.

Odds against every version of Doom

Doom's chance of winning, version by version. The strongest Doom here, God Emperor Doom, wins >99% of the time; the weakest, Van Damme, wins 51%. The last column says what moves each version away from classic Doom's 70%.

DoomDoom winsBarOutcomeWhat changes
Doom
Classic Doom
70%FavoredThe baseline Doom
Power Cosmic Doom
Power Cosmic (1967)
97%FavoredOverall +70 for this version
Beyonder-powered Doom
Beyonder power (1985)
>99%FavoredOverall +130 for this version
Unthinkable Doom
Unthinkable (2003)
97%FavoredOverall +65 for this version
Life Force Doom
Life Force (2012)
99%FavoredOverall +110 for this version
God Emperor Doom
God Emperor (2015)
>99%FavoredOverall +150 for this version
Infamous Iron Man
Infamous Iron Man
64%FavoredOverall −4 for this version; −3: He's trying to make amends, and he dodged the Thing rather than trade blows (Infamous Iron Man, 2017).
Sorcerer Supreme Doom
Sorcerer Supreme (2025)
95%FavoredOverall +55 for this version
Doom 2099
Doom 2099
67%FavoredOverall −4 for this version
Van Damme
Van Damme (Ultimate)
51%Toss-upOverall −20 for this version
Fox Doom (2005)
Julian McMahon (2005)
56%Toss-upOverall −45 for this version; +30: His own film's Fantastic Four: he beat them one at a time and fell only to all four together (Fantastic Four, 2005).
Fox Doom (2007)
Surfer's board (2007)
81%FavoredOverall +35 for this version; −20: His own film's team beat him: Johnny, able to swap powers by touch, took all four of the team's powers at once (Rise of the Silver Surfer, 2007).
Fox Doom (2015)
Toby Kebbell (2015)
51%Toss-upOverall −20 for this version

Tale of the tape

Eight stats on a 1-to-10 scale, classic Doom against the Thing (Fox films, 2005–07). How the stat scales work.

StatClassic DoomThe Thing
Strength68
Speed74
Agility54
Durability98
Size66
Fighting skill66
Intelligence94
Ranged attack82

The Thing's power set

Who is the Thing?

Michael Chiklis played Ben Grimm, an astronaut and Reed's best friend, whose change into the rock-skinned Thing was the hardest of the four and cost him his engagement. When Doom used Reed's machine to turn Ben human and took Reed captive, Ben climbed back into the machine to become the Thing again and save his friends, then helped freeze Doom with cold water (Fantastic Four, 2005). In the sequel he helped Johnny take the board back from Doom.

First appearance: Fantastic Four (2005).

Affiliations

Fantastic Four
The team's muscle and its pilot.

In a team fight

The cold water: he and Reed doused Doom to finish the thermal shock. Build a team against Doom.

Other versions of the Thing

Further reading

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