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Doctor Doom vs. the Thing (Earth-1610)

Ben Grimm, the Earth-1610 version of The Thing. In this site's ratings, classic Doctor Doom wins 63% of their one-on-one fights, so Doom is the favorite.

Classic Doom63%Favored

The Thing (Earth-1610)37%Underdog

The verdict: Doom has the edge

Fight rules: both fighters at their peak, no preparation, no allies, only their own powers and personal gear. A win is a knockout, a restraint they can't escape, or a forced surrender. The percentages are fan estimates, not official information.

Doom's edge

Armor, flight and sorcery against rock.

The Thing's edge

A near-invulnerable rock hide that doesn't even feel temperature.

Odds against every version of Doom

Doom's chance of winning, version by version. The strongest Doom here, God Emperor Doom, wins >99% of the time; the weakest, Fox Doom (2005), wins 22%. The last column says what moves each version away from classic Doom's 63%.

Doom	Doom wins	Outcome	What changes
Doom Classic Doom	63%	Favored	The baseline Doom
Power Cosmic Doom Power Cosmic (1967)	97%	Favored	Overall +70 for this version
Beyonder-powered Doom Beyonder power (1985)	>99%	Favored	Overall +130 for this version
Unthinkable Doom Unthinkable (2003)	96%	Favored	Overall +65 for this version
Life Force Doom Life Force (2012)	99%	Favored	Overall +110 for this version
God Emperor Doom God Emperor (2015)	>99%	Favored	Overall +150 for this version
Infamous Iron Man Infamous Iron Man	56%	Toss-up	Overall −4 for this version; −3: He's trying to make amends, and he dodged the Thing rather than trade blows (Infamous Iron Man, 2017).
Sorcerer Supreme Doom Sorcerer Supreme (2025)	94%	Favored	Overall +55 for this version
Doom 2099 Doom 2099	59%	Toss-up	Overall −4 for this version
Van Damme Van Damme (Ultimate)	55%	Toss-up	Overall −20 for this version; +12: His own universe's Fantastic Four: he sabotaged the accident that made them and has fought them since (Ultimate Fantastic Four).
Fox Doom (2005) Julian McMahon (2005)	22%	Underdog	Overall −45 for this version
Fox Doom (2007) Surfer's board (2007)	87%	Favored	Overall +35 for this version
Fox Doom (2015) Toby Kebbell (2015)	43%	Toss-up	Overall −20 for this version

Tale of the tape

Eight stats on a 1-to-10 scale, classic Doom against the Thing (Earth-1610). How the stat scales work.

StatClassic DoomThe Thing

Strength68

Speed74

Agility54

Durability99

Size66

Fighting skill65

Intelligence94

Ranged attack82

The Thing's power set

Rock strength8/10
Superhuman strength.
Rock hide9/10
Near-invulnerable; feels no heat or cold.
Brawling6/10
Fights like a linebacker.

Who is the Thing?

The Ultimate Ben Grimm, Reed's childhood friend, was caught in the N-Zone accident and came back with a rocky orange hide, superhuman strength and near-invulnerability, and no sense of temperature. He later took on blue and then purple glowing forms. He enlisted in the Air Force and, at the end of Ultimate Doomsday (2011), proposed to Sue Storm.

First appearance: Ultimate Fantastic Four #1 (2004).

Affiliations

Ultimate Fantastic Four: Founding member.
U.S. Air Force: Enlisted after the team broke up.

In a team fight

The wall that can't feel Doom's fire. Build a team against Doom.