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Doctor Doom vs. the Thing (Earth-828)

Ben Grimm, the Earth-828 version of The Thing. In this site's ratings, classic Doctor Doom wins 65% of their one-on-one fights, so Doom is the favorite.

Classic Doom65%Favored
VS
The Thing (Earth-828)35%Underdog

The verdict: Doom has the edge

Fight rules: both fighters at their peak, no preparation, no allies, only their own powers and personal gear. A win is a knockout, a restraint they can't escape, or a forced surrender. The percentages are fan estimates, not official information.

Doom's edge

Flight, sorcery and blasts against a ground-bound bruiser.

The Thing's edge

A body of orange rock with strength in the heaviest class and the durability to match.

Odds against every version of Doom

Doom's chance of winning, version by version. The strongest Doom here, God Emperor Doom, wins >99% of the time; the weakest, Fox Doom (2005), wins 23%. The last column says what moves each version away from classic Doom's 65%.

DoomDoom winsBarOutcomeWhat changes
Doom
Classic Doom
65%FavoredThe baseline Doom
Power Cosmic Doom
Power Cosmic (1967)
97%FavoredOverall +70 for this version
Beyonder-powered Doom
Beyonder power (1985)
>99%FavoredOverall +130 for this version
Unthinkable Doom
Unthinkable (2003)
96%FavoredOverall +65 for this version
Life Force Doom
Life Force (2012)
99%FavoredOverall +110 for this version
God Emperor Doom
God Emperor (2015)
>99%FavoredOverall +150 for this version
Infamous Iron Man
Infamous Iron Man
58%Toss-upOverall −4 for this version; −3: He's trying to make amends, and he dodged the Thing rather than trade blows (Infamous Iron Man, 2017).
Sorcerer Supreme Doom
Sorcerer Supreme (2025)
94%FavoredOverall +55 for this version
Doom 2099
Doom 2099
61%FavoredOverall −4 for this version
Van Damme
Van Damme (Ultimate)
45%Toss-upOverall −20 for this version
Fox Doom (2005)
Julian McMahon (2005)
23%UnderdogOverall −45 for this version
Fox Doom (2007)
Surfer's board (2007)
88%FavoredOverall +35 for this version
Fox Doom (2015)
Toby Kebbell (2015)
45%Toss-upOverall −20 for this version

Tale of the tape

Eight stats on a 1-to-10 scale, classic Doom against the Thing (Earth-828). How the stat scales work.

StatClassic DoomThe Thing
Strength68
Speed74
Agility54
Durability98
Size66
Fighting skill66
Intelligence95
Ranged attack82

The Thing's power set

Who is the Thing?

Ebon Moss-Bachrach plays Ben Grimm, the Thing of Earth-828, in First Steps (2025). A former astronaut and Reed's oldest friend, he came back from the team's flight as a man of orange rock with tremendous strength and a body almost nothing can hurt. He stood with his family when the Silver Surfer and Galactus came for New York, and he remains the team's heart: gruff, gentle and fiercely protective. Moss-Bachrach returns in Avengers: Doomsday (Dec 18, 2026).

First appearance: The Fantastic Four: First Steps (2025).

Affiliations

Fantastic Four
The team's muscle and its heart.
Space program
Flew the mission that gave the team its powers.

In a team fight

The wall and the hammer. Build a team against Doom.

Other versions of the Thing

Further reading

Looking for pictures? See official art on the Marvel Database, a fan wiki. This site does not host Marvel artwork.