Matchup · Film
Doctor Doom vs. the Thing (Earth-828)
Ben Grimm, the Earth-828 version of The Thing. In this site's ratings, classic Doctor Doom wins 65% of their one-on-one fights, so Doom is the favorite.
The verdict: Doom has the edge
Fight rules: both fighters at their peak, no preparation, no allies, only their own powers and personal gear. A win is a knockout, a restraint they can't escape, or a forced surrender. The percentages are fan estimates, not official information.
Doom's edge
Flight, sorcery and blasts against a ground-bound bruiser.
The Thing's edge
A body of orange rock with strength in the heaviest class and the durability to match.
Odds against every version of Doom
Doom's chance of winning, version by version. The strongest Doom here, God Emperor Doom, wins >99% of the time; the weakest, Fox Doom (2005), wins 23%. The last column says what moves each version away from classic Doom's 65%.
| Doom | Doom wins | Bar | Outcome | What changes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Doom Classic Doom | 65% | Favored | The baseline Doom | |
| Power Cosmic Doom Power Cosmic (1967) | 97% | Favored | Overall +70 for this version | |
| Beyonder-powered Doom Beyonder power (1985) | >99% | Favored | Overall +130 for this version | |
| Unthinkable Doom Unthinkable (2003) | 96% | Favored | Overall +65 for this version | |
| Life Force Doom Life Force (2012) | 99% | Favored | Overall +110 for this version | |
| God Emperor Doom God Emperor (2015) | >99% | Favored | Overall +150 for this version | |
| Infamous Iron Man Infamous Iron Man | 58% | Toss-up | Overall −4 for this version; −3: He's trying to make amends, and he dodged the Thing rather than trade blows (Infamous Iron Man, 2017). | |
| Sorcerer Supreme Doom Sorcerer Supreme (2025) | 94% | Favored | Overall +55 for this version | |
| Doom 2099 Doom 2099 | 61% | Favored | Overall −4 for this version | |
| Van Damme Van Damme (Ultimate) | 45% | Toss-up | Overall −20 for this version | |
| Fox Doom (2005) Julian McMahon (2005) | 23% | Underdog | Overall −45 for this version | |
| Fox Doom (2007) Surfer's board (2007) | 88% | Favored | Overall +35 for this version | |
| Fox Doom (2015) Toby Kebbell (2015) | 45% | Toss-up | Overall −20 for this version |
Tale of the tape
Eight stats on a 1-to-10 scale, classic Doom against the Thing (Earth-828). How the stat scales work.
The Thing's power set
- Rock strength8/10
Lifts tanks and tears through steel.
- Rock durability8/10
Bullets and blasts bounce off him.
- Brawling7/10
Big, honest swings.
- Piloting6/10
A trained astronaut and pilot.
Who is the Thing?
Ebon Moss-Bachrach plays Ben Grimm, the Thing of Earth-828, in First Steps (2025). A former astronaut and Reed's oldest friend, he came back from the team's flight as a man of orange rock with tremendous strength and a body almost nothing can hurt. He stood with his family when the Silver Surfer and Galactus came for New York, and he remains the team's heart: gruff, gentle and fiercely protective. Moss-Bachrach returns in Avengers: Doomsday (Dec 18, 2026).
First appearance: The Fantastic Four: First Steps (2025).
Affiliations
- Fantastic Four
- The team's muscle and its heart.
- Space program
- Flew the mission that gave the team its powers.
In a team fight
The wall and the hammer. Build a team against Doom.
Other versions of the Thing
- The ThingBenjamin Grimm · Earth-616 comicsClassic Doom 60%
- The Thing (Earth-1610)Ben Grimm · Alternate comicsClassic Doom 63%
- The Thing (Fox films, 2005–07)Ben Grimm · FilmClassic Doom 70%
- The Thing (Fox film, 2015)Ben Grimm · FilmClassic Doom 70%
Further reading
- Doctor Doom in the movies: every live-action Doom, rankedOn screen
- The strongest versions of Doctor Doom, rankedPower rankings
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