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Doctor Doom vs. the Maker (Earth-1610)
Reed Richards, the Earth-1610 (the Maker) version of Mister Fantastic. In this site's ratings, classic Doctor Doom wins 18% of their one-on-one fights, so Doom is the underdog.
Fight rules: both fighters at their peak, no preparation, no allies, only their own powers and personal gear. A win is a knockout, a restraint they can't escape, or a forced surrender. The percentages are fan estimates, not official information.
Doom's edge
A god's power against a mind that has never had one. The Maker's empire on Earth-6160 was all leverage and preparation, and on Battleworld, the one time he reached for God Emperor Doom's power, the Molecule Man cut him into slices (Secret Wars #9, 2015).
The Maker's edge
Reed Richards's genius with nothing left to restrain it: he rewrote sixty years of a world's history, controls time inside his City, spreads his mind through microplastic spores, and at the end grew into a City-sized hyper-object reaching across past and future (Ultimate Endgame #2–5, 2026).
Odds against every version of Doom
Doom's chance of winning, version by version. The strongest Doom here, Beyonder-powered Doom, wins 98% of the time; the weakest, Fox Doom (2005), wins 4%. The last column says what moves each version away from classic Doom's 18%.
| Doom | Doom wins | Bar | Outcome | What changes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Doom Classic Doom | 18% | Underdog | The baseline Doom | |
| Power Cosmic Doom Power Cosmic (1967) | 78% | Favored | Overall +70 for this version | |
| Beyonder-powered Doom Beyonder power (1985) | 98% | Favored | Overall +130 for this version | |
| Unthinkable Doom Unthinkable (2003) | 75% | Favored | Overall +65 for this version | |
| Life Force Doom Life Force (2012) | 95% | Favored | Overall +110 for this version | |
| God Emperor Doom God Emperor (2015) | 95% | Favored | Overall +150 for this version; −40: Another Reed Richards, and one who went for the battery: on Battleworld the Maker reached the Molecule Man, the source of Doom's power, and tried to take it for himself before the Molecule Man cut him into slices (Secret Wars #9, 2015). | |
| Infamous Iron Man Infamous Iron Man | 14% | Long shot | Overall −4 for this version; −3: He's trying to make amends, and he dodged the Thing rather than trade blows (Infamous Iron Man, 2017). | |
| Sorcerer Supreme Doom Sorcerer Supreme (2025) | 66% | Favored | Overall +55 for this version | |
| Doom 2099 Doom 2099 | 17% | Underdog | Overall −4 for this version; +3: Cyberpathy: he can talk to machines directly, and the Fantastic Four's suits and gadgets are machines. | |
| Van Damme Van Damme (Ultimate) | 9% | Long shot | Overall −20 for this version | |
| Fox Doom (2005) Julian McMahon (2005) | 4% | Long shot | Overall −45 for this version | |
| Fox Doom (2007) Surfer's board (2007) | 47% | Toss-up | Overall +35 for this version | |
| Fox Doom (2015) Toby Kebbell (2015) | 9% | Long shot | Overall −20 for this version |
Tale of the tape
Eight stats on a 1-to-10 scale, classic Doom against the Maker (Earth-1610). How the stat scales work.
The Maker's power set
- Super-genius10/10
Rewrote sixty years of a world's history, one would-be hero at a time (Ultimate Invasion, 2023).
- Time control9/10
Rules the fourth dimension inside his City, where he boasted he could stretch a few moments of torture into centuries (Ultimates #4).
- Maker-Mind9/10
Microplastic spores that remodel minds into receivers for his hive mind (Ultimate Endgame #2).
- Self-remaking9/10
Grew into a City-sized tree and began expanding through space and time (Ultimate Endgame #5).
- Elastic body7/10
Reed Richards's stretching body, used as a whip and a net.
- Picotech hijacking6/10
Seized Spider-Man's picotech armor and turned it into a Carnage (Ultimate Endgame #3).
Who is the Maker?
- Real name
- Reed Richards
- Universe
- Earth-1610, the first Ultimate Universe; on Earth-6160 from the 1960s on
- First appearance
- Ultimate Fantastic Four #1 (2004)
- Created by
- Brian Michael Bendis, Mark Millar and Adam Kubert
- Status
- Destroyed in Ultimate Endgame #5 (June 2026), though the story leaves the door open
The Maker is the Reed Richards of the first Ultimate Universe, Earth-1610. The prodigy who led that world's Fantastic Four turned on everything he had been and became the villain of Jonathan Hickman's Ultimate Comics: The Ultimates (2011–12), master of a domed City and its Children of Tomorrow. He outlived his universe by joining the Cabal and reached Battleworld, where he trapped Earth-616's Reed in a homemade temporal bubble so he could take God Emperor Doom's power for himself, until the Molecule Man cut him into slices (Secret Wars #9, 2015). In Ultimate Invasion (2023) he escaped to a younger world, Earth-6160, arriving in the early 1960s, and remade it: he killed the Eternals, delayed a rocket launch so that world's Fantastic Four missed their cosmic storm, kept anyone from ever becoming a super hero, and ruled through a secret Maker's Council. He broke that world's Reed Richards and welded a Doom mask onto him (Ultimates #4, 2024). Howard Stark and Doom sealed him inside his City for two years; inside, he fought Howard, now Immortus, across what felt like thousands of years and finally absorbed the City itself (Ultimate Endgame #2, 2026). He burst out as a City-sized tree, set on replacing all life with himself, and fell to every hero on Earth striking at once and to Doom inside the Immortus Engine (Ultimate Endgame #5, June 2026).
First appearance: Ultimate Fantastic Four #1 (2004) as Reed Richards; the Maker of Jonathan Hickman's Ultimate Comics: The Ultimates (2011–12).
Signature feats
- Killed the Eternals in 1963 and deleted the protocol that brought them back to life, so they would stay dead.Ultimate Endgame #1 (2025)
- Delayed a rocket launch by hours so Earth-6160's Fantastic Four missed the cosmic storm.Ultimate Invasion #2 (2023)
- Broke Earth-6160's Reed Richards with time-stretched torture and welded the Doom mask onto him.Ultimates #4 (2024)
- Built a working temporal bubble out of scraps on Battleworld and devolved Earth-616's Reed inside it.Secret Wars #9 (2015)
- Absorbed the City Mind and turned the whole City into his body.Ultimate Endgame #2 (2026)
- Took over Spider-Man's picotech armor and killed Peter Parker.Ultimate Endgame #3 (2026)
- Shattered the Guardians' Cosmic Hyper Cube and erased heroes from existence with a word.Ultimate Endgame #5 (2026)
Weaknesses and limits
- The one time he reached for God Emperor Doom's power, the Molecule Man cut him into slices.Secret Wars #9 (2015)
- A piece of his mind was cut away with Howard Stark's own time machine; he needed Doom's mind for chronomechanics.Ultimate Endgame #4 (2026)
- A single mind is a single target: when every hero struck at once through the Immortus Engine, a million small fights became one he could lose.Ultimate Endgame #5 (2026)
- Contempt: he dismissed Doom as a failed experiment minutes before Doom destroyed him.Ultimate Endgame #5 (2026)
Gear
The Maker's helmet and black bodysuit; the City and its Children of Tomorrow; Howard Stark's stolen Immortus Engine (Ultimate Endgame #4); microplastic Maker-spores; and whatever his genius can build from what's in reach, like the temporal bubble he made from Battleworld scrap.
Affiliations
- The City
- His domed seat of power on two Earths; on Earth-6160 he became it (Ultimate Endgame #1, 2025).
- Maker's Council
- The secret council of villains through which he ruled Earth-6160 from the shadows.
- Children of Tomorrow
- The City's soldiers, remade as receivers for the Maker-Mind (Ultimate Endgame #2).
- Cabal
- Joined it to survive the end of the multiverse (Secret Wars, 2015).
In a team fight
Rewrites the battlefield: turns the ground, the air and his enemies' allies into extensions of himself. Build a team against Doom.
Status, October 2026
Destroyed in Ultimate Endgame #5 (June 24, 2026), though perhaps not for good. The Fantastic Force burned his last molecules, but in the closing pages of Ultimate Universe: Finale #1 the young Victor von Doom of Earth-6160 has a vial of him, means to study it, and knows exactly who the Maker really is.
Other versions of Mister Fantastic
- Mister FantasticReed Richards · Earth-616 comicsClassic Doom 54%
- Mister Fantastic (Earth-1610)Reed Richards · Alternate comicsClassic Doom 72%
- Doom of Earth-6160Reed Richards · Alternate comicsClassic Doom 57%
- Mister Fantastic (Fox films, 2005–07)Reed Richards · FilmClassic Doom 84%
- Mister Fantastic (Fox film, 2015)Reed Richards · FilmClassic Doom 85%
- Mister Fantastic (Earth-828)Reed Richards · FilmClassic Doom 70%
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