Matchup · Earth-616 comics
Doctor Doom vs. the Beyonders
A race from outside the multiverse, the beings from beyond the multiverse who caused the Incursions. In this site's ratings, classic Doctor Doom wins 2% of their one-on-one fights, so Doom is a long shot.
The verdict: Doom needs a miracle
Fight rules: both fighters at their peak, no preparation, no allies, only their own powers and personal gear. A win is a knockout, a restraint they can't escape, or a forced surrender. The percentages are fan estimates, not official information.
Doom's edge
Their one weakness: they are linear, bound to their own timeline, and Doom found it (New Avengers vol. 3 #33, 2015). Under this site's rules he has no Molecule Man bomb and no allies, only his mind and his armor.
The Beyonders's edge
They killed nearly all the Celestials, and three of them killed the Living Tribunal (New Avengers vol. 3 #30, 2015). Their Incursions destroyed universe after universe.
Odds against every version of Doom
Doom's chance of winning, version by version. The strongest Doom here, God Emperor Doom, wins 89% of the time; the weakest, Fox Doom (2005), wins <1%. The last column says what moves each version away from classic Doom's 2%.
| Doom | Doom wins | Bar | Outcome | What changes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Doom Classic Doom | 2% | Long shot | The baseline Doom | |
| Power Cosmic Doom Power Cosmic (1967) | 3% | Long shot | Overall +70 for this version; −60: A herald's power against the race that killed nearly all the Celestials (New Avengers vol. 3 #30, 2015). | |
| Beyonder-powered Doom Beyonder power (1985) | 6% | Long shot | Overall +130 for this version; −100: One being's power against the race it came from, the race that killed the Living Tribunal (New Avengers vol. 3 #30, 2015). | |
| Unthinkable Doom Unthinkable (2003) | 3% | Long shot | Overall +65 for this version; −55: Demon-lent sorcery against beings who killed the Living Tribunal (New Avengers vol. 3 #30, 2015). | |
| Life Force Doom Life Force (2012) | 3% | Long shot | Overall +110 for this version; −100: The Scarlet Witch's power reshapes one reality; the Beyonders were ending all of them (New Avengers vol. 3 #29–30, 2015). | |
| God Emperor Doom God Emperor (2015) | 89% | Favored | Overall +150 for this version | |
| Infamous Iron Man Infamous Iron Man | 2% | Long shot | Overall −4 for this version | |
| Sorcerer Supreme Doom Sorcerer Supreme (2025) | 3% | Long shot | Overall +55 for this version; −45: Earth's highest mystic office counts for little against beings who killed the Living Tribunal (New Avengers vol. 3 #30, 2015). | |
| Doom 2099 Doom 2099 | 2% | Long shot | Overall −4 for this version | |
| Van Damme Van Damme (Ultimate) | 1% | Long shot | Overall −20 for this version | |
| Fox Doom (2005) Julian McMahon (2005) | <1% | Long shot | Overall −45 for this version | |
| Fox Doom (2007) Surfer's board (2007) | 2% | Long shot | Overall +35 for this version; −30: The Silver Surfer's board is not enough against the race that ended the multiverse. | |
| Fox Doom (2015) Toby Kebbell (2015) | 1% | Long shot | Overall −20 for this version |
Tale of the tape
Eight stats on a 1-to-10 scale, classic Doom against the Beyonders. How the stat scales work.
The Beyonders's power set
- Reality control10/10
Power on the scale of the multiverse.
- Godkillers10/10
Killed the Celestials and the Living Tribunal (New Avengers vol. 3 #30, 2015).
- The Incursions10/10
Collided universes until only a handful were left.
- Numbers8/10
A whole race, not one being.
Who is the Beyonders?
- What they are
- A race of beings from outside the multiverse
- Also called
- The Ivory Kings
- First appearance
- Marvel Two-in-One #63 (May 1980)
- Created by
- Mark Gruenwald and Jerry Bingham
The Beyonders live outside the multiverse. The Beyonder who staged the first Secret Wars came from their realm, and Fantastic Four #319 (1988) tied him to them. In Jonathan Hickman's Avengers, Hank Pym discovered that the Ivory Kings behind the Incursions, the collisions that were destroying universe after universe, were the Beyonders (New Avengers vol. 3 #29, 2015). They had killed nearly all the Celestials, and three of them had killed the Living Tribunal (#30). Doom found their flaw: they are linear beings, unable to move through time. He taunted them into the open and set off a bomb made of Molecule Men, an explosion strong enough to destroy thousands of universes, which killed them and channeled their power into Owen Reece (New Avengers vol. 3 #33; Secret Wars #5, 2015). Doom used that power to build Battleworld from what was left. A later story gave them an origin: the Celestials created them, and they were first called the Omegas (Defenders: Beyond #2, 2022).
Signature feats
- Caused the Incursions that destroyed most of the multiverse.New Avengers vol. 3 #29 (2015)
- Killed nearly all the Celestials.New Avengers vol. 3 #30 (2015)
- Three of them killed the Living Tribunal.New Avengers vol. 3 #30 (2015)
Weaknesses and limits
- They are linear beings, unable to move through time.New Avengers vol. 3 #33 (2015)
- Destroyed by Doom's bomb made of Molecule Men.Secret Wars #5 (2015)
Gear
None they need.
Affiliations
- The Ivory Kings
- Their name in the Incursion stories (New Avengers vol. 3 #29, 2015).
The Beyonders vs. Doctor Doom in the comics
Doom came out ahead once and the Beyonders never in the encounters listed here.
| Year | Issue | What happened | Result |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2015 | New Avengers vol. 3 #33; Secret Wars #5 | Doom taunted them into the open and detonated a bomb made of Molecule Men, killing them and taking their power. | Doom |
In a team fight
Not a team player: a whole race, and the reason there was a Battleworld at all. Build a team against Doom.
Questions and answers
Who would win, Doctor Doom or the Beyonders?
In this site's fan ratings, classic Doctor Doom wins 2% of their one-on-one fights, so the Beyonders is the favorite. Doom's edge: Their one weakness: they are linear, bound to their own timeline, and Doom found it (New Avengers vol. 3 #33, 2015). Under this site's rules he has no Molecule Man bomb and no allies, only his mind and his armor. The Beyonders's edge: They killed nearly all the Celestials, and three of them killed the Living Tribunal (New Avengers vol. 3 #30, 2015). Their Incursions destroyed universe after universe.
Has Doctor Doom ever beaten the Beyonders?
Doom came out ahead once and the Beyonders never in the encounters listed here. What happened: Doom taunted them into the open and detonated a bomb made of Molecule Men, killing them and taking their power (New Avengers vol. 3 #33; Secret Wars #5, 2015).
Which version of Doom has the best chance against the Beyonders?
God Emperor Doom, who wins 89% of the time in these ratings. The weakest is Fox Doom (2005), at <1%.
What is the Beyonders's biggest weakness against Doom?
They are linear beings, unable to move through time (New Avengers vol. 3 #33, 2015).
How strong is the Beyonders?
The Beyonders's top-rated powers on this site are Reality control (10/10: Power on the scale of the multiverse) and Godkillers (10/10). On the site's 1-to-10 stat scale: strength 10, durability 10, intelligence 10, ranged attack 10.
Further reading
- Doctor Doom comics to read before Avengers: DoomsdayAvengers: Doomsday
- Thanos vs. Doctor Doom: who would win?Head to head
- How strong is Doctor Doom, really?Explainer
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