Dream matchup · Earth-616 comics
Doctor Doom vs. Joaquin Torres (Falcon)
Joaquin Torres, the second Falcon, a young hero with falcon wings and a healing factor. Here are the odds against every version of Doom, the tale of the tape and the powers behind the numbers.
Doctor Doom, almost every time. In this site's fan ratings, classic Doctor Doom wins 94% of their one-on-one fights, and his best chance is as God Emperor Doom, who wins more than 99%.
Joaquin Torres and Doctor Doom have never fought in the comics. These odds come from their powers alone, under the site's fight rules. Why we include dream matchups.
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The verdict: Doom, and it isn't close
Fight rules: both fighters at their peak, no preparation, no allies, only their own powers and personal gear. A win is a knockout, a restraint they can't escape, or a forced surrender. The percentages are fan estimates, not official information.
Doom's edge
Torres is young, fast and brave, and none of that dents armor that survived a point-blank blast from the Infinity Gauntlet (Infinity Gauntlet #4, 1991).
Joaquin Torres's edge
Wings fused to his body, a psychic link with birds, a healing factor, and Sam Wilson's training.
Odds against every version of Doom
Doom's chance of winning, version by version. The strongest Doom here, God Emperor Doom, wins >99% of the time; the weakest, Fox Doom (2005), wins 72%. The last column says what moves each version away from classic Doom's 94%.
| Doom | Doom wins | Bar | Outcome | What changes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Doom Classic Doom | 94% | Favored | The baseline Doom | |
| Power Cosmic Doom Power Cosmic (1967) | >99% | Favored | Overall +70 for this version | |
| Beyonder-powered Doom Beyonder power (1985) | >99% | Favored | Overall +130 for this version | |
| Unthinkable Doom Unthinkable (2003) | >99% | Favored | Overall +65 for this version | |
| Life Force Doom Life Force (2012) | >99% | Favored | Overall +110 for this version | |
| God Emperor Doom God Emperor (2015) | >99% | Favored | Overall +150 for this version | |
| Infamous Iron Man Infamous Iron Man | 93% | Favored | Overall −4 for this version | |
| Sorcerer Supreme Doom Sorcerer Supreme (2025) | 99% | Favored | Overall +55 for this version | |
| Doom 2099 Doom 2099 | 93% | Favored | Overall −4 for this version | |
| Van Damme Van Damme (Ultimate) | 88% | Favored | Overall −20 for this version | |
| Fox Doom (2005) Julian McMahon (2005) | 72% | Favored | Overall −45 for this version | |
| Fox Doom (2007) Surfer's board (2007) | 98% | Favored | Overall +35 for this version | |
| Fox Doom (2015) Toby Kebbell (2015) | 88% | Favored | Overall −20 for this version |
Tale of the tape
Eight stats on a 1-to-10 scale, classic Doom against Joaquin Torres (Falcon). How the stat scales work.
Joaquin Torres's power set
- Flight7/10
Wings fused to his body.
- Healing factor5/10
Recovers from injuries quickly.
- Bird link4/10
A psychic connection with birds.
Who is Joaquin Torres?
- Real name
- Joaquin Torres
- First appearance
- Captain America: Sam Wilson #1 (Dec. 2015)
- Created by
- Nick Spencer and Daniel Acuña
- On screen
- Danny Ramirez (2021 to 2025), who returns in Avengers: Doomsday
Joaquin Torres was a teenager when the scientist Karl Malus spliced him with falcon DNA, leaving him with wings (Captain America: Sam Wilson, 2015). Sam Wilson trained him, and he became the new Falcon. He has never fought Doom in the comics.
Signature feats
- Became the new Falcon under Sam Wilson.Captain America: Sam Wilson (2015 to 2017)
Weaknesses and limits
- Inexperienced against a villain of Doom's level.
Gear
None.
Affiliations
- Sam Wilson
- His mentor.
In a team fight
The scout: fast in the air, first to the fight. Build a team against Doom.
Questions and answers
Who would win, Doctor Doom or Joaquin Torres (Falcon)?
In this site's fan ratings, classic Doctor Doom wins 94% of their one-on-one fights, so Doom is the favorite. Doom's edge: Torres is young, fast and brave, and none of that dents armor that survived a point-blank blast from the Infinity Gauntlet (Infinity Gauntlet #4, 1991). Joaquin Torres's edge: Wings fused to his body, a psychic link with birds, a healing factor, and Sam Wilson's training.
Have Doctor Doom and Joaquin Torres (Falcon) ever fought?
No. They have never fought in the comics, so this is a dream matchup: the odds come from their powers alone, under the site's fight rules.
Is Joaquin Torres (Falcon) in Avengers: Doomsday?
Yes. Danny Ramirez is on Marvel's announced cast for Avengers: Doomsday, which opens December 18, 2026.
Which version of Doom has the best chance against Joaquin Torres (Falcon)?
God Emperor Doom, who wins >99% of the time in these ratings. The weakest is Fox Doom (2005), at 72%.
What is Joaquin Torres's biggest weakness against Doom?
Inexperienced against a villain of Doom's level.
How strong is Joaquin Torres (Falcon)?
Joaquin Torres's top-rated powers on this site are Flight (7/10: Wings fused to his body) and Healing factor (5/10). On the site's 1-to-10 stat scale: strength 3, durability 4, intelligence 4, ranged attack 2.
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Further reading
- Who is Doctor Doom? A primer before Avengers: DoomsdayAvengers: Doomsday
- What to watch and read before Avengers: DoomsdayWatch guide
- How strong is Doctor Doom, really?Explainer
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